Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't As Good As You Think, A Speedrunner's Perspective (2024)

@garyfriel87283 ปีที่แล้ว +159

With scripting, the conversation you're having is storytelling Vs gameplay. As a speedrunner, you probably lean very heavily on "gameplay". In the past decade, we've seen games really start to pivot into the storytelling aspect. Games like Call of Duty spearheaded this. If the character is running from something and an explosion happens, for the purposes of telling a story and setting the atmosphere, the game might have scripted camera, dialogue or movement etc. when this happens. It's done to add a more cinematic feeling to the game. With the chasing the boat mission, that's pretty similar to let's say End of the Line from San Andreas. For the firetruck to be able to collide with things or pass the explosions like intended, the player would HAVE to follow it's path. You needed to be in a convertible in both to be able to have the cinematic aspect of the NPC entering/exiting the boat. This is all done to create the atmosphere. They want the player to be forced to interact with more than JUST the subject of the storyline. Scripted events happening along the way draws in the world around you. This isn't just an NPC, this is someone who serves a purpose in the progression of the mission. The older games don't have that because the world around you just exists and you move around it. Also, in terms of the intro being so long, what GTA 5 tried to do is make playable cutscenes in this area. Instead of skipping the robbery in GTA 3, watching the deal go down in Vice City or seeing the cop car drive around in San Andreas, you actually play your intro cut scene in GTA 5.
I completely agree about holding your hand, but I also don't really play GTA games for challenges and would do so just for the enjoyment of playing. I also completely agree about the side content. San Andreas was fantastic at giving you rewards for your work on the side missions. Your health improved. You kept your weapons. You managed to get tanks and jets in grove street. GTA 5 has none of that from what I could see.
If I'm being critical of GTA 5, it comes down to four things;
1) There is no overall storyline. Trevor is maybe the best character they've ever created, and his back story with Michael is interesting. But the overall concept of the game is "Do that bank job and make some money". GTA 3 had the revenge mission. You're getting back on your feet to get back at the person who double crossed you. GTA San Andreas had Carl do everything in his power to get Sweet out of jail. GTA 4 didn't have a huge underlying storyline, but the storyline developed naturally from the beginning, bouncing around to different storylines. GTA 5 has none of this. There's no deep connection to family members. There's no need to protect anyone. It's all just "Let's make some money". This is actually my main gripe with Vice City too. Tommy Vercetti is sent to Vice City to start up production. Sure, they get robbed early and there's an underlying want to find out how and why. But ultimately your goal is "Okay let's take over the city" which isn't that interesting.
2) The game is barely used. I remember completing GTA 5 once and then not going back to it for years. It was only when seeing some stuff online, like Vanoss, that I realized how GTA was essentially this amazing playground where you can do anything if you set up it. Even these days with the NoPixel mods, it shows how incredible GTA 5 was as a platform. But really, I don't remember exploring anything from GTA 5. I know GTA 3 up to GTA 4 absolutely inside out. Every building, every street. I never got any of that from GTA 5 as the story missions just don't seem to really cover anything about it.
3) They ruined the online experience. For me, I absolutely loved GTA 4 online. Going into a free roam lobby, everyone had a coloured icon on the screen. Let's say the blue and orange guy are in a car, maybe I might go and blow them up and run. I'll look on the map and see blue and orange get in a car together and they're coming for me. I now have a rivalry with blue and orange. Maybe me and red just raced at the airport. I know me and red are cool. In GTA 5, everyone is bouncing in and out of lobbies and most of the icons are just regular white ones anyways. You didnt get to know any character in your lobby at all. No one was doing anything. They had a reason to their lobby time and you weren't involved in that. Sure, there's TONNES of extra stuff in there, but in GTA 4 the extra stuff stopped being used very quickly. By like 2011 you'd have found it hard to get a Cops and Robbers session off the ground. But Free Roam was always booming. Feel strangely nostalgic even writing that.
4) They never used any of their best features. The heists seemed cool as f*ck to me. Picking your team. Building their stats up. That reminded me a little bit of a game like Juiced. Each race my team got better stats and improved their abilities. They had this in GTA 5....but they only had like 3 actual heist missions. If they had a bunch of these, like 20 different missions with a lot of potential team combinations, I'd have loved it. And even worse, they barely use their character switching at all. I loved Conflict Desert Storm for their character switching. I'd have my sniper watching over from the hill, I'd sneak forward with my main guy. My brother puts the heavy gunner to overwatch everything and sneaks forward with me. If we get spotted and it goes to sh*t, stick on auto fire and our guys have our backs. Even the idea of having missions you could play from a bunch of different perspectives. A game that was good for offering different experienced based on your character recently was A Way Out. My game wouldn't have been the same as again say my brother's game because we experienced different stuff. If they weaved a lot of missions together with the sole purpose of "This mission is played out 3 different ways, which character will you use for it?" it'd have been MUCH more interesting.

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    @MariusBoss114583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me I played GTA 5 quite a lot. And instead I've played GTA 4 for one playthrough and a bit and didn't touched it. Well it was in 2018 and at the end of it I got my PS4 and I gave up on the PS3. Which sucks because today the games suck ass. Not the games themselves. It's just that they work badly because of Scratched stuff. Tried GTA 4. Crashed too much. Plus it looked like it ran at less than 30 FPS. Yet when I looked at an option on my TV. I press Ok then back because when I press ok it's supposed to show some channels even though they don't work and don't care if they do, so after pressing back it says some Information about the HDMI and it says 60 Hz and the quality. Now I'm playing Prince of Persia Trilogy and it's 720p but it's still fine. This game works nicely. Glad because I can play it while waiting for the Remake of Sands of Time. Anyways it said 60fps yet it didn't feel like it. But it's aight. It sucks that I didn't played GTA 4 as much as I wanted to. Hope I'll get to play it nicely one day. I don't have a PC so that's a problem. I'd play it on that. Btw If I'd get a PC what should I get? I have a PS4 Slim btw. I'd like something which is like that but a bit more better. Perhaps better than a PS4 Pro?

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    @Xegethra3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved GTA 4 online, Cops and Robbers, Bomb the Base Act 3. And the bike races where everyone raced a fa*ggio. I had it on PS3 way back when. Fans have brought back GTA 4 online on PC, but I don't know what modes it has.

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    @longdicklamar86742 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The gta v storyline is prob the best it’s a circle of change, it’s Michael reconsidering his actions in the past, Trevor reconsidering his actions in the present, and Franklin reconsidering his actions in the future.

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    @dayday_thebossgaming7722 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this man just wrote a whole analytic essay😭😭

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    @imyourpapi14452 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, I'm not gonna read no essay on youtube comments why would you put this much effort?

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